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After losing to that mob you'd have thought Aberdeen city centre would be the last place to go out. Hope they get punished heavily for this, total cretins.

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The Aberdeen fans are moaning hoors at the best of times. This will have turbocharged the forums - quite rightly.

Players going out after a defeat to Rangers will particularly wind them up.

It is not just Aberdeen it will cause problems for. 

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Some condemnation here, go to Lorenzo's on any Saturday night win. lose or draw and you will find some of our players in there. These are young men at 10pm on a Saturday night that are no different to any other young person in the world. (knowing the alleged story of how the virus was taken into the city centre it should never have been there, the carrier was sent away to isolate after failing 2 tests before boarding the helicopter to the rigs. He decided to go out and get bladdered instead) Other players from other clubs were out after games across Scotland. 

The dilemma here is have these footballers basically signed an ongoing contract of no social life while they watch their mates going out having a good time while they are confined to barracks?

Considering how many English players are currently in Ibiza enjoying their summer, these young men have been locked up like the rest of us for 4 months and are now expected to continue that state of isolation.

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I think I will also add that by being so specific in the condemnation has opened up these young men to some pretty vile abuse and if Scottish football is stopped I can imagine their lives will never be the same again, as the very recent case of Caroline Flack has highlighted people deal with pressure and criticism which has the potential of being life changing in different ways. 

What happened to #bekind?

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1 hour ago, Rengade Master said:

I think I will also add that by being so specific in the condemnation has opened up these young men to some pretty vile abuse and if Scottish football is stopped I can imagine their lives will never be the same again, as the very recent case of Caroline Flack has highlighted people deal with pressure and criticism which has the potential of being life changing in different ways. 

What happened to #bekind?

There are very clear rules regarding social distancing and general conduct when out. These rules went out of the window in Aberdeen City centre at the weekend - probably all around the country. 

They don’t deserve vile abuse, but condemnation seems fair enough as they have behaved like ****holes given the current circumstances. The whole city is suffering because of bellends like them. It is unfortunate for them that they are high profile, but perhaps all the more reason why going out during a pandemic was idiotic.

 

 

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and if the idiot who was told (having travelled on public transport from another country) had self isolated as told to do so and gone for the test would this outbreak even have happened? The Aberdeen players have been scapegoated on a situation out with their control! Young men have behaved in a similar fashion every week all were asymptomatic when tested as most cases will be. I struggle to think of any person young or old who is going to sign up to an employment contract that will deny them of a social life in the terms of their contract of employment outwith their place of work! 

 

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36 minutes ago, Rengade Master said:

and if the idiot who was told (having travelled on public transport from another country) had self isolated as told to do so and gone for the test would this outbreak even have happened? The Aberdeen players have been scapegoated on a situation out with their control! Young men have behaved in a similar fashion every week all were asymptomatic when tested as most cases will be. I struggle to think of any person young or old who is going to sign up to an employment contract that will deny them of a social life in the terms of their contract of employment outwith their place of work! 

 

You talk about scapegoats, but at the same time peddle an unverified story about one guy!
 

I don’t get what you are saying about contracts and socialising - have you not noticed that these are very unusual times that we are living in?

Footballers when playing in a game are being special dispensation to break the rules by having physical contact with the opposing team. That is why normal rules are not applying to them. Given the situation they are in, minimising risk would make more sense than not even acknowledging - assuming for a minute the story you tell is true - that the irresponsibility of just one person could screw up an entire city. You talk like there is no pandemic.

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he has not been named and shamed all over social media and a government briefing!

What unusual times or are you referring to May? We are now in August pubs and hospitality are open.

Playing football tested twice a week doesn't mean 23 people are on that park are covid free!

As for pandemic I've had it it was awful, compared with the wife who had flu 9 years ago similar, before you look at confirmed cases look at hospital admissions, no-one currently testing positive is going to hospital, they are suffering mild symptoms equivalent to a heavy cold at worst.

Covid will kill people agreed, but the vast majority I hate to say it will be living on borrowed time or have undetected underlying health conditions, like those who drop dead on a football pitch or in a marathon only to find out during a post mortem that they had heart or lung conditions undetected. 

At no point has any hospital been overwhelmed in Scotland and the vast majority expected to recover have. 

Coronavirus is the common cold (with a sting attached)little bit like anaphylactic shock following a wasps sting) it spreads easily and have never found a vaccine, the flu is a virus despite finding a vaccine thousands still die every year,. Covid will eventually fall into that bracket. It will prey on the weak, obese, elderly, sick. In Scotland no-one under the age of 15 has died and under 30 I think the figure was 3. 

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Unusual times in that football is being played in empty stadiums and that footballers are under a great deal of scrutiny regarding Covid 19.

The fact that they have been named and shamed is not a surprise - and this forms a big part of their idiocy.

The went out, breaking club / football authority  rules and knowingly taking risks. They knew that they would tested and that the club has to disclose any cases. They are in the public eye. It is fairly obvious that it would come to light. Had they went anywhere else other than the Soul Bar they would have, in all likelihood, been ok.

The fact that Covid is mild in the under 30s is neither here nor there in their case. In current circumstances, a footballer contracting it is unavailable for selection. In normal circumstances, I am fairly sure that footballers avoid / are banned from certain activities  to minimise the risk of injuries. Covid at the moment is the equivalent of having an injury. 

As for the wider debate, it could be argued that the lockdown saved hospitals form being overwhelmed - we won’t know for sure.

Since then, there has been a widespread change in behaviour - social distancing, hand washing, mask wearing etc - and, without reading much about it, I have noticed that the raw stats indicate that countries experiencing spikes in cases (eg France or Germany) are not seeing the numbers result in the same death rates as before - so I would be inclined to believe what you say about the disease in general.

In some ways, a few outbreaks across the continent will not be a bad thing, as it should help produce enough information as to how far and how quickly restrictions can be lifted. We tend to forget how new this is and that the truth is we just don’t know for sure how to deal with it.

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, Rengade Master said:

Some condemnation here, go to Lorenzo's on any Saturday night win. lose or draw and you will find some of our players in there. These are young men at 10pm on a Saturday night that are no different to any other young person in the world. (knowing the alleged story of how the virus was taken into the city centre it should never have been there, the carrier was sent away to isolate after failing 2 tests before boarding the helicopter to the rigs. He decided to go out and get bladdered instead) Other players from other clubs were out after games across Scotland. 

The dilemma here is have these footballers basically signed an ongoing contract of no social life while they watch their mates going out having a good time while they are confined to barracks?

Considering how many English players are currently in Ibiza enjoying their summer, these young men have been locked up like the rest of us for 4 months and are now expected to continue that state of isolation.

I don't have a problem with players having a social life. They broke the term by going out in a group of 8 to the city centre. There was an agreement in place to allow them to work again and have the club that pay their wages to start earning again.

Quite frankly they broke that term, i couldn't go to my uncles funeral do to travelling and gathering restrictions. Considering the things people have had to miss out on wedding, funerals, seeing family's etc... I really don't think its too much to ask them to stick to 6. 

Frankly they deserve the condemnation from others and there really is no excuse. This will have been drilled into them on numerous occasions. Who knows the situation for the club and other clubs now affected by the loss of income. This could affect peoples employment.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Al k said:

. Who knows the situation for the club and other clubs now affected by the loss of income. This could affect peoples employment.

 

 

Indeed, it could affect the whole of Scottish football.

And yes, although these guys aren't the only idiots about, this is a football forum, so it's entirely relevant to discuss here IMO.

 

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