SanguinePar

Yes they are. Just because they have two sources of income doesn't mean they aren't professional at both. Beer Baron is right, they are part time, but they are not amateur. Also, spot on @DA-go Par Adonis. Dundee really are a bunch of c**the, aren't they?

Just on the donate button point, I'm not sure if it's actually visible on mobile - I almost always use the forum on my phone and I can't see the button anywhere. When I saw it the other day I happened to be on my laptop. I set my mobile browser to desktop mode though, and that worked. Also, that PayPal link isn't working for me @Paradox

I can't see any way that it would be economically feasible to have an entire season of closed door matches - even if the technical sides of setting up streaming of matches or whatever were to be worked out, I can't see how any club in the Championship (or Premiership for that matter) would be able to price it in a way where enough people would buy it but they would still break even.

So there is! I missed that. Well, if that's for supporting the site, I'd be happy to use it, wouldn't miss a couple of pounds a month or whatever.

Yep, me too. Could we maybe have a donate button somewhere?

Worth noting that Gardiner is a former employee of Rangers, Hearts and Dundee (and was at Dens when Dundee were dodgily invited to join the top flight when Rangers died), and was recently rumoured to have been offered a new job at Ibrox around the time of the original vote.

Wait, it's Ross that's the supposed bully? Oh FFS, what a load of nonsense. I didn't agree with our vote on the resolution, but the idea that Ross might be bullying anyone is hilariously stupid.

Agreed on all counts, and I'm also no fan of the SNP or Sturgeon. The Tories should (but likely won't) be hung out to dry when this is over. And I fear their new Be Alert "strategy" is going to lead to a significant upswing in cases very soon. Maybe then the bulk of the public will realise what a mess they're making of this.

Hadn't noticed the black and white badge originally. Very nice!

Love that away kit, that's very cool.

Quick mock up of what I'd like to have seen:

First, it's worth remembering that these are only renders, so there could be variations before it's out. I quite like it, although more from a distance than close up. The thin white inside the black stripes is cool IMO. Not keen on the stripes stopping before the shoulders though, and I never like an all-white (or all-black) back. Want stripes there too. If it was possible to order it with stripes on the back it'd be better. Even if they were iron on like the numbers and names! I don't like the placement of the Joma J on the front, it isn't centred when considered part of a pair with the club badge. I think it'd be better shifted so it overlaps the black stripe. Or move the badge in a bit. I like the little details like the grey under the arms and the very thin black lines on the back and at the sleeves. Having DAFC on the back of the neck is nice. Not sure what that weird bit on the front of the neck is? Prefer black shorts, always. Shirt - 7.5/10 Shorts - 6/10 Socks - 7/10

Link to COWS story

Cheers Yorkie, very kind of you. I'm not the facilitator though, that's @DA-go Par Adonis - I just chip in with the odd comment and do the recording, editing and disseminating once it's ready :-)

Thanks very much RBFC! :-)